Windows 11 upgrade causing some instability in ASIO

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Windows 11 upgrade causing some instability in ASIO

Postby kc2rgw » Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:44 pm

After doing a Windows 11 upgrade, my config that was stable in Win10 is now giving me stability issues with ASIO audio.

My setup is 2.9.0.6, it's an 11 x64 Pro install

The system is an 8core 16 thread Ryzen at 3.7 GHz, it's a fast system.

Audio interface is a Motu M2, USB on its own USB card/controller

I use Voicemeeter as my mixer/matrix for audio routing and processing.

I've removed, rebooted and fully re-installed all the drivers for the Motu, and Voicemeeter.

I've tried 44.1 sample rate, 48k (my normal mode) and buffer sizes 128-512 with each. Larger buffers lowered the issues a bit but didn't fix it.

wdm-ks interfaces for audio are somewhat more stable but still have pops and clicks that weren't there before.

A very weird oddity is that I use virtual desktops and the sync completely breaks on audio when I toggle away from where Thetis is running. This happens even with no apps running on the other virtual desktops. This did not happen previously.

I believe it's a bug in Windows 11, but just posting to see if anyone has found anything with regard to this.

The image shows the "sine wave" wandering that also goes very irregular and eventually breaks and goes into heavy Overflows and Underflows when things break sync entirely. It used to be stable on the center line when run this same way in Win10.

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Re: Windows 11 upgrade causing some instability in ASIO

Postby kc2rgw » Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:45 pm

Additionally, Windows apps, video/audio playback, video conferencing, all normal.

EESDR3 the Sun software is also glitching, when it did not prior to the upgrade.

Using wdm-ks interfaces works as a way around the issue, but it seems to be an ASIO issue.
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Re: Windows 11 upgrade causing some instability in ASIO

Postby kc2rgw » Thu Feb 23, 2023 11:04 pm

Ripped out drivers, swapped to the Focusrite box, had RF all over my signal as was the last time I used that.

Ripped out all drivers, reinstalled for the Motu and now it's stable again.

The mysteries of Windows and audio drivers.

Will see if it is stable for a while.
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Re: Windows 11 upgrade causing some instability in ASIO

Postby w-u-2-o » Thu Feb 23, 2023 11:46 pm

Audio driver corruption has been a classic and long standing problem with Windows updates.
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Re: Windows 11 upgrade causing some instability in ASIO

Postby K1LSB » Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:07 am

I check the sample rates for all of my audio devices whenever W11 pushes an update. Sometimes W11 will change the sample rate on one or more Voicemeeter devices, sometimes not.

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Re: Windows 11 upgrade causing some instability in ASIO

Postby Tony EI7BMB » Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:42 am

I had to correct most of my playback/record device settings when I upgraded to WIN 11 .
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Re: Windows 11 upgrade causing some instability in ASIO

Postby rdwing » Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:55 am

Advise you to never upgrade OS like that. Much better to start fresh with a wipe and clean install.

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