w-u-2-o wrote:What band(s) did you do this on? The 6M band that you are having trouble with, or some other band(s)? What behavior do you get when you exceed 72W of power during this test?
Of course not. Center of 40m into a dummy load. This is with 100W drive, the power sags to 72W probably due to temperature. Can you clarify what you mean by exceed 72w? Adjust the PA gain? It's set for 100W during normal operation.
w-u-2-o wrote:At one time the design did include a fan controller, but the implementation of that circuit was "sub-optimal" and it was abandoned in later versions of the 7000DLE.
Fine, they need to fix the website then. The product specifications still indicate a temperature controlled fan. They are advertising features not delivered. Seems like its been at least 2/3 years since that change was made. Why isn't it updated? There were able to update it with new or changed selling points, so no excuses.
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w-u-2-o wrote:W4NNG did a similar test and reported similar results (80W max.):
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3622&p=12976I appreciate your concerns, as no doubt do many others. When my 100D was my daily driver I had the external fan as described by my article linked above. It was either that or sell the ANAN. When I got my first amplifier it ceased to be a problem. Now I have an 8000 as my daily driver (100D backup) and an even bigger amp so it's even less of an issue. It's not been a huge issue for most people because most people paying this much for a radio have already invested in an amplifier. But for anyone running barefoot it can be a real problem without an external fan.
I agree with you that when you pay this much for some hardware you expect it to be better than perfect. Unfortunately in many ways it is not. The 7000 series is certainly much better than what came before it, but it still has its weak spots. And remember you didn't pay anything for the firmware or the software. There is some risk living at on the bleeding edge of HF SDR technology, unfortunately, and some trade-offs as well. And if you question Apache about it there will be some discussion as to what duty cycles are really associated with ICAS, and since there is no formal standard there might be some disagreement there.
We definitely agree on some things there, but I don't really agree that this is the bleeding edge of HF hardware anymore. In fact I'd wager that this project has been falling behind for quite some time. The design of the core is essentially unchanged for the last 10 years except for small things here and there. It is a testament to the soundness of the original design, and exceptional volunteer team that it has remained a viable product for this long. In 2012 this was so far ahead of everything else, however in 2022 there are some glaring omissions and real competition in the marketplace.
I don't want it to be better than perfect, I just want it to do what it says on the tin. That's how commerce works. A lot of consumers let companies get away with a lot, but if I purchase something I expect that it performs to spec. Especially for this kind of money. The Anan is not cheap.
As a new consumer of this particular product, I have been disappointed now a few times by misleading or inaccurate specifications and marketing literature.
Expectation: 1.15Mhz wide or greater Panafall, at least 3 "front ends".
Reality: 192 khz max.
Expectation: 7 receivers available to use and park wherever I want on HF.
Reality: 1 waterfall, 1 receiver. 2nd MultiRX receiver sometimes works but must be within 1st receivers IF and is buggy. Only 3 are actually available and unused in hardware, all others already used (RX1/RX2/PSrx/PStx). RX2 not very useful because cannot switch to transmit wherever RX2 is if already using MultiRX.
Expectation: 2 ADC's, fully configurable with ability to assign antennas as desired.
Reality: ADC1 has 3 switchable ports. ADC2 has a single fixed port only.
Expectation: Wideband view of entire ADC range, 0-62 Mhz.
Reality: Completely broken
Expectation: Voltage, current, chassis temp monitoring per brochure.
Reality: Voltage only
Expectation: Gigabit ethernet and Protocol 2
Reality: 100 Mbit only and Protocol 1
Expectation: Software control of all relays in the radio, including PTT.
Reality: PTT-out is fixed, you cannot disable PTT-Out. Only can disable PTT-In.
Expectation: 100w 160-6m, key down at least for some reasonable time period.
Reality: Not 100w on all bands, and not able to sustain 100w key down for more 60 seconds. By 2 minutes it's already down 10%. Now, the 6m problem may be a defect, but this inability to sustain 100w is true on all bands. And a defective LPF shouldn't make it out of QC.
Thanks for the link. I searched for the part number as indicated in the manual (TE#158619-2) and couldn't find it. Hopefully this post will serve any future customers that come looking for the right connector.
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