Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

[W1AEX]

Pre6 is running great here Richie. Pure Signal is working great with the 20ms sampling rate. Previously, a couple of times an hour PS would randomly appear to fall asleep and feedback/correction would stop for a few seconds and then recover. From what I can see with the 20ms sampling rate the feedback light is on solid while I am speaking and the correction seems to be completely stable. This certainly seems to be a big improvement for operating with my particular 200D Orion board.

Mode switching is instant, in spite of my wide-ranging settings in the DSP setup page.

Thanks for the changes in K9 Pre6, it's a keeper!

73, Rob W1AEX

[W2PA]

Pre6 running fine here so far.

I had been seeing a 3-sec delay going from SSB on one band to DIGU on another band. Strangely, I wasn't noticing the same behavior when switching modes within the same band stack position.

Mode switches are very fast now no matter the start or end point bands or modes.

[DH1KLM]

Only a small one.
Just noticed that Setup>Appearance>RX Display>Grid>Alpha is not working anymore like it is in 2.8.11.
Any other box/slider works fine.
Compared 2.8.11 and 21k9pre6 side by side. In both versions Disable picDisplay is unchecked. Skin is IK3VIG Special.
Note the grid background. Should be the same on both pics.
I don't know in which version it came up the first time.

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[ramdor]

Only a small one.
Just noticed that Setup>Appearance>RX Display>Grid>Alpha is not working anymore like it is in 2.8.11.
Any other box/slider works fine.
Compared 2.8.11 and 21k9pre6 side by side. In both versions Disable picDisplay is unchecked. Skin is IK3VIG Special.
Note the grid background. Should be the same on both pics.
I don't know in which version it came up the first time.

ever since DirectX was implemented I expect. Probably due to draw order. I expect the picDisplay image is over the top of the rectangle fill for the background, where as it was probably the other way around under GDI+ engine. You could use black to 'darken' the picDisplay with some alpha applied.

I will take a look.

Edit: ah yes, that draw rectangle was 'optimized' away recently I will draw it over the top of the picDisplay if one is in use. Thanks !

R.

[W9EZ]

I had the same issue here as well with picDisplay. No longer could I adjust alpha for it..

Thanks Richie

[Alexander UC]

Thank you very much for your work.
It would be useful if the "Audio" settings were saved to a profile TX

[DH1KLM]

This is already the case.
Goto Setup>Transmit and mark "Highlight TX Profile Save Items" and go thru all setup pages to see which parameters will be saved in your profile.

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[Alexander UC]

Thank you, I didn't see the elephant -)
Why does the red advanced (VAC-2) scale always show zero?

[ramdor]

For those that haven't seen them, a couple of recent videos.

TCI initial basics working : https://youtu.be/AOTBsGdPQM0
Changes to filter dragging : https://youtu.be/AepFJnVLnNU

There should be an updated pre release (the last hopefully) over the next few days, which will include TCI in its basic form without audio/iq at this early stage.

73, Richie.

[DL8LAQ]

TCI initial basics working : https://youtu.be/AOTBsGdPQM0

This is great! Thank you Richie!

[oe3ide]

Would be great if we could have ZTB in CAT and Midi
I looked up the CAT-manual, ZZZT should be unassigned atm.
ie:
ZZZT0 recall ZTB
ZZZT1 store ZTB

73 Ernst

[NC3Z]

With the new Auto AGC is there a CAT command to enable it?

[W2PA]

Slight modification to my earlier observation on mode switch speed. In Pre6 almost all switches of band/mode combinations are fast now - except for AM/SAM to DIGU/L caused by a band change. That is still nearly a 3-second delay.

Switching from AM/SAM to DIGU/L within the same band appears to be fast at first glance. But if you carefully watch what happens, you see that it changes first to (what appears to be) an SSB mode, but takes the usual nearly 3 seconds to complete the mode change as indicated by the mode buttons.

The reverse direction of DIGU/L to an AM mode is always fast.

[ramdor]

@Chris, the only way I get a slow mode change is by using different DSP settings for the profile stored against the mode

See vid : https://youtu.be/AN0_WWxAMs0

However, when typing this msg, it crossed my mind, that perhaps the DSP properties that are being assigned from the load TX profile cause an update/rebuild with the DSP. To my horror they do, so we are rebuilding everything for EVERY single value in the dsp options window. I will fix this pronto !

Edit: I have not really be able to improve it. Switching TX profiles may have a bit of lag due to drivers being swapped (if that option is on) or buffer size changes. Time taken to redo the portaudio etc. However, most of the delay comes from changes in the DSP. I have added a small display in that window to show how long the last change took. I can configure it to take upwards of 15 seconds !!

R.

[ramdor]

*** another test release, 21k9pre7

Download x64 [md5:9E95862C3A0E45FD205972BC51E7A927] - https://bit.ly/3oN9QaK

TCI options are in CAT->User Interface
Option to disable the 0 beat to mouse is in general options

There is minimal error handling in tci atm, so don't be shocked if it crashes Client count not yet implemented so will always show 0.

Cheers, Richie.

[21k9pre7]
change: Set antenna bits networkIO command only called if bits are different to last sent
change: need to hold shift to drag shift the whole filter in CTUN off and CTUN on modes. See vid : https://youtu.be/AepFJnVLnNU
change: deferred DSP updates so that each txprofile setting does not cause another update
change: mode specific panel on main UI screen changed to hide those that are not in use. Was causing unexplained lag when using bringtofront
add: ignore 0beat adjust if drag within a filter when in CTUN on
add: TCI server support. Basic commands only. No stream audio/iq support. Supported commands : https://bit.ly/3gH6Zvy
add: time taken to perform dsp change is displayed in DSP settings for debug purposes

[w2ner]

With the new TCI feature, will the crashes something that will be addressed in the next version?

[oe3ide]

*** another test release, 21k9pre7

Download x64 [md5:9E95862C3A0E45FD205972BC51E7A927] - https://bit.ly/3oN9QaK

TCI options are in CAT->User Interface
Option to disable the 0 beat to mouse is in general options

There is minimal error handling in tci atm, so don't be shocked if it crashes Client count not yet implemented so will always show 0.

Cheers, Richie.

[21k9pre7]
change: Set antenna bits networkIO command only called if bits are different to last sent
change: need to hold shift to drag shift the whole filter in CTUN off and CTUN on modes. See vid : https://youtu.be/AepFJnVLnNU
change: deferred DSP updates so that each txprofile setting does not cause another update
change: mode specific panel on main UI screen changed to hide those that are not in use. Was causing unexplained lag when using bringtofront
add: ignore 0beat adjust if drag within a filter when in CTUN on
add: TCI server support. Basic commands only. No stream audio/iq support. Supported commands : https://bit.ly/3gH6Zvy
add: time taken to perform dsp change is displayed in DSP settings for debug purposes

Thanks again, Richie!
Runs fine so far!
TCI works!
No 0beat on CTUN is a great addition!!

73 Ernst

[ramdor]

@w2ner yes, I just wanted to get it out there as it is for now. Most of it is handled, but there are some areas where it could crash. Like if it got some strange formatted TCI data, stuff like that.

@Ernst good stuff, just adding in ping/pong frame support to handle the keep alive/dead connection stuff. I send out a CloseConnection frame (8) just before closing the connections.

Cheers,

Richie.

[ramdor]

@Ernst yes, the 0beat mouse stuff has really frustrated for ages. Using shift to shift the filter makes it so much easier to use as well, together with the filter crossover limit stuff, finally nice to use.

Richie.

[oe3ide]

@w2ner yes, I just wanted to get it out there as it is for now. Most of it is handled, but there are some areas where it could crash. Like if it got some strange formatted TCI data, stuff like that.

@Ernst good stuff, just adding in ping/pong frame support to handle the keep alive/dead connection stuff. I send out a CloseConnection frame (8) just before closing the connections.

Cheers,

Richie.

Just reworked my TunerReminder (new Version 1.11)
https://www.oe3ide.com/tunerreminder-by-oe3ide/
(Timer now only jumps in, if the TCI connection is lost)

73 Ernst

[oe3ide]

@Ernst yes, the 0beat mouse stuff has really frustrated for ages. Using shift to shift the filter makes it so much easier to use as well, together with the filter crossover limit stuff, finally nice to use.

Richie.

just an idea: Would be great, if Ctrl+drag could snap to the current tune step

73 Ernst

[EA1DAV]

I see that for TCI the default port is 50001. This is defaul port in Anydesk and also in Icom RSBA. Just to avoid conflicts if someone use this aplications in the same PC than Thetis is running.

73, Jesus

[Tony EI7BMB]

has anyone got TCI working with JTDX software for CAT?

[W2PA]

*** another test release, 21k9pre7

Richie - Switching from AM/SAM or any SSB or CW mode into DIGU/L is still slow, as before (~3 sec). Other mode transitions are fast, including going from DIGU/L back to SAM/AM or SSB/CW.

Note: my DSP options are identical between Digital and phone/CW modes. The only other difference I can think of is that (in my setup) VAC is only used in DIGU/L and no other modes and switches automatically when going in/out of DIGU/L. But even when I uncheck auto enable in both tx profiles and save them, the above switching is still slow.

Everything else working well thus far.

(Edited for completeness.)

[oe3ide]

has anyone got TCI working with JTDX software for CAT?

Yes, works perfect.

73 Ernst

[Tony EI7BMB]

Thanks Ernst, can you share your settings please as I'm missing a step I think?

[oe3ide]

Thanks Ernst, can you share your settings please as I'm missing a step I think?

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73 Ernst

[Tony EI7BMB]

Thanks Ernst. Its still crashing Thetis so guess I'll wait until its further developed

[ramdor]

Thanks Ernst. Its still crashing Thetis so guess I'll wait until its further developed

hi tony, can you send me ErrorLog.txt from C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\OpenHPSDR\Thetis-x64

Cheers, Richie.

[Tony EI7BMB]

Sure thing, its on the way via PM