Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby Joe » Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:05 pm

Thanks for everything! Many great updates.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby NC3Z » Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:32 pm

ramdor wrote:I just can't explain the agc rc2 problem...
RIchie.


Ritchie, I run split sample rates, 192K on RX1 and 1536K on RX2. I stated to note that in my explanation and neglected to note my sample rate on RX2. Although both use the same Bin Width.

It is not an issue now that I understand that it changed. I can set the values to work the way I run my station, it was just different in this version and wanted to report my findings.

I set my Auto AGC offset by ear anyways.
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby ramdor » Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:39 pm

vk6cpu wrote:Since the upgrade I can no longer change the RX2 VFO via the client 2. If I manually change the VFO B that is reported by the client.
If I TX the via RX2 client output is displayed on RX2 window - as expected.


Hi Nigel,

I have fixed this in rc3, it should be out sometime in the coming week before the weekend.

A vid to show it in operation : https://youtu.be/l-8ttd_4_u0

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby DF2LH » Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:27 pm

ramdor wrote:Does the PA implement multiple TCI client connections? So able to connect to Thetis + EESDR3 at the same time? If not I don't quite understand how it can work with two TCI servers at the same time (Thetis + EESDR3).

Thetis sends out ping frame every 20 seconds (websocket spec), and does not need a reply. However, it will reply with a pong frame if it receives a ping frame. If the frame send fails due to loss of connection for example, Thetis will close the connection.

Edit: I will be adding log windows for both TCI + CATtcpip next week so you can see inbound and outbound messages.

R.


Hi Richie
no, the RF-Kit is not multi TCI capable. I have changed in the PA from the IP:Port of the PC with EESDR to the IP:Port of the PC with Thetis.
Thetis answers every ping of the RF-Kit with a pong and also immediately displays 'TCI Server 1 client connected' when I activate TCI in the PA.
A log window will certainly be a great help to address such problems.
I will report my observation to the OM at RF-Kit about the unsuccessful connection here.

73, Thomas
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby Chiron » Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:52 pm

@ramdor Richie

PureSignal usage is great.
For the anan with 16 bit ADC is the default value for SetPk = 0.4072

When switching over to hermesLite2 with has a 12 bit ADC the SetPk = 0.4072 is not the propper value. It must be something like 0.238

In order to get 'PureSignal correction' to work the SetPk needs to be set to a value like 0.23. After doing this manualy all works fine. But after starting Thetis again, the default value is 0.4072. Thats perfect for the Anan. But not working for HermesLite2.

Is it possible to save the SetPk value together with the IP address of the radio. And at starting Thetis, recalling the SetPk value corresponding to the IP address of the selected radio?

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby rdscuba » Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:31 pm

I am attempting to do the latest update to Thetis. I am getting the attached error after copy/pasting the newly downloaded Thetis2_8_11_MW0LGE_21k8_64bit files inot the Thetis install folder as per the video at the top of this thread. Any help is appreciated.

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Postby ramdor » Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:46 pm

@rdscuba hi, follow the instructions in post1 and it will work. You need to hold CTRL down as you run up the patched version for the first time, this will update your database. Ensure you take a backup first.

You will be presented with the following :

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Follow the on screen instructions.

Cheers, Richie.
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby Tony EI7BMB » Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:50 am

Has anyone else noticed any change to VAC stability ? I find I have to reset VAC way more often lately.
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby w-u-2-o » Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:40 am

Perfectly stable here. Never have to do anything to it.
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Postby Tony EI7BMB » Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:45 am

Thanks Scott. I'll do some digging to try see what's going on.
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby DH1KLM » Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:11 pm

VAC also stable here. No difference to prior Versions.
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby ULTIMAX » Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:39 pm

Just curious, on something I notice after I install the latest 21K (rc2-b) I notice an increase in CPU at system not Thetis when I open any other window, most of the time before the download was between 13-18% , now is 26-60% , DELL intel core i7 @4.00GHz 16 GB 64-bit windows 10
even while making this post while listening in the bands the CPU climbs to 59%, everything works fine, I don't run any logging software or do any digital stuff, just simple SSB. any ideas ???? thank you
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby W1JA » Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:46 pm

ramdor wrote:change: rework of cursors
Hi RIchie. If this change was intended to help with my disappearing-cursor issue, I'm sad to report that with k9rc2-b the issue is still present, same as before.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby ramdor » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:03 pm

W1JA wrote:
ramdor wrote:change: rework of cursors
Hi RIchie. If this change was intended to help with my disappearing-cursor issue, I'm sad to report that with k9rc2-b the issue is still present, same as before.

73, John


No John, it was just a tidy up of the cursor stuff. I have spent quite a while looking into your issue. The only work around will be to add an option to disable the new DirectX approach. It is very odd, and unfortunately I can not find a solution at this time. I will include the option in rc3, it will require a restart to take effect.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby va7qi » Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:11 am

I see that the latest versions are no longer listed on the first part of this discussion.
Where are the latest RC versions posted now?

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Postby ramdor » Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:45 pm

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby Alexander UC » Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:54 pm

rc2-b AGC works strangely, it looks like at that time - the decline is fixed. And it doesn't depend on settings.
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Postby oe3ide » Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:19 pm

Alexander UC wrote:rc2-b AGC works strangely, it looks like at that time - the decline is fixed. And it doesn't depend on settings.


yepp, will be fixed in rc3 ;-)

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby ramdor » Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:40 pm

All links to existing downloads have been made unavailable at this time, including rc2-

21k9rc3 will arrive in the next couple of days hopefully.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby G3ZQH » Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:25 am

DirectX error message
Thetis 21k9RC2-b has been running fine for a couple of days but this came up this morning after leaving it running overnight. The panadapter and waterfall are blank but otherwise Thetis seems active. Screenshots of DirectX error attached. I had to use Task Manager to shut down Thetis and after this it re-started with full functions restored. I've not seen this before.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby ramdor » Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:31 pm

G3ZQH wrote:I've not seen this before.
73 Dave G3ZQH


neither have I Dave, could be ...

a) auto update
b) gpu driver crash
c) sleep/awake issue
d) device resolution changes
e) device driver bugs (are you updated to latest)
f) issue in code related to create bitmap (I will have a check later today)

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Postby G3ZQH » Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:07 pm

Richie, I'll monitor for now and report if it re-occurs.
73 Dave

G3ZQH wrote:
I've not seen this before.
73 Dave G3ZQH


neither have I Dave, could be ...

a) auto update
b) gpu driver crash
c) sleep/awake issue
d) device resolution changes
e) device driver bugs (are you updated to latest)
f) issue in code related to create bitmap (I will have a check later today)

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby ramdor » Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:21 pm

*** hopefully last before it hits post 1, test release 21k9rc3 (I keep saying that)

NOTE: ISSUE WITH THIS BUILD, Turn off N1MM UDP spectrums if you use that before patching, and hold off using them until fixed in rc4 (argghhh)

Please try :

Download x64 [md5: D5200DE4DDC05B820F1B758FD15BE664] - https://bit.ly/3Hw8bwM

and please keep it civil regarding the changes I decided to include regarding the nightmare in Ukraine. Remember, you do not have to use this modified version.

If you use TCI spots, additional info is now shown as follows :

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Cheers, Richie.

[21k9rc3]
add: directX legacy buffer option added
add: Thetis version timeout added (this version times out on 1st June 2022)
change: Use Peak Meter Readings for TX COMP and ALC check box moved into ALC section of DSP tab
change: second wdsp update - (1) minor changes to ease builds for non-Windows platforms, and (2) changes to improve display frequency accuracy for high zoom situations
#Stand up for Ukraine#
If you do not agree with the following changes, then feel free not to use this software. (apologies for any false positives)
From 21k9rc3 onwards :
change: if region is Russia, language installed on PC is Russian, along with a host of other checks, you will be reminded about Ukraine
change: all spot systems will ignore any Russian DX stations, or spotting stations
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby ea3aqr » Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:17 pm

Thanks Ritchie!

Agree with "Russian mods", those days I don't answer or call to russian stations...

EDIT: TCI spots, additional info is just showing "SWL", nothing else... I don't know if it is an issue with Swisslog.
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby oe3ide » Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:54 pm

ea3aqr wrote:Thanks Ritchie!

Agree with "Russian mods", those days I don't answer or call russian stations...

EDIT: TCI spots, additional info is just showing "SWL", nothing else... I don't know if it is an issue with Swisslog.


Yes, swisslog sends only "swl" as text:
SPOT:6W1TG,USB,14222000,16776960,Swl;
SPOT:WB9ONU,FT8,14074000,16776960,Swl;
SPOT:6W1TG,USB,14222000,16776960,Swl;
SPOT:6W1TG,SSB,14222000,16776960,Swl;
SPOT:6W1TG,USB,14222000,16776960,Swl;

73 Ernst
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby ea3aqr » Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:57 pm

oe3ide wrote:
ea3aqr wrote:Thanks Ritchie!

Agree with "Russian mods", those days I don't answer or call russian stations...

EDIT: TCI spots, additional info is just showing "SWL", nothing else... I don't know if it is an issue with Swisslog.


Yes, swisslog sends only "swl" as text:
SPOT:6W1TG,USB,14222000,16776960,Swl;
SPOT:WB9ONU,FT8,14074000,16776960,Swl;
SPOT:6W1TG,USB,14222000,16776960,Swl;
SPOT:6W1TG,SSB,14222000,16776960,Swl;
SPOT:6W1TG,USB,14222000,16776960,Swl;

73 Ernst


Tomorrow I will talk with Swisslog developer... ;)
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby Siddhu » Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:44 am

I just patched with release 21k9rc3 and performed a database update as well. I'm getting this error while opening Thetis

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby ramdor » Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:52 am

@Siddhu Yes that is an rc3 introduced bug by the looks of it. I will get a version out tomorrow to fix that. It is caused by having N1MM spectrum turned on.

You can edit the database.xml file to get around it for now, located here : C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\OpenHPSDR\Thetis-x64

<Options>
<Key>chkN1MMEnableRX1</Key>
<Value>False</Value>
</Options>
<Options>
<Key>chkN1MMEnableRX2</Key>
<Value>False</Value>
</Options>

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Postby Tony EI7BMB » Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:19 am

Thanks Richie, just installed.
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

Postby W1JA » Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:41 pm

ramdor wrote:add: directX legacy buffer option added
Richie, I checked the checkbox, restarted Thetis, confirmed the checkbox was still checked, but the disappearing + cursor problem is still there, same as before.

Sri es 73, John W1JA

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