cmASIO feature in Thetis

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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby OZ1CT-Ben » Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:40 am

If you se in cmASIO2 picture i have set the buffer + sample rate to 4800 /64 but the ASIO do not run !!! i can only get the ASIO to run if I use the VAC (look in cmASIO3 picture...and when I start VAC it change the samplerate to 2048 ??? why ???

the cmASIO4 show the driver version

I started to run v2.10.3.5 but upgraded to v2.10.3.6 but still no sign of the "cmASIO" on the bare

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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby DH1KLM » Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:10 am

Does your UMC appear in Thetis audio setup if it is registrated in registry? It should not be an option to switch to and should not be displayed.

Have you tried hostsample.exe?
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby OZ1CT-Ben » Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:41 am

As you can see in the cmASIO5 the drive show up in Thetis Audio...there is no diference if I remove it from the Registry

Hostsample.exe ???? don't know this file ???


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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby DH1KLM » Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:02 pm

Looks like this is the point. It should not be visible if all went right.

Hostsample.exe is mentioned in cmASIO Guide.pdf and can be downloaded at https://github.com/W4WMT/Thetis/releases/tag/v0.0
It gives you informations about installed ASIO devices.

search.php?keywords=hostsample

cmASIO Guide.pdf is installed if you use the latest Thetis installer. You can also download it from https://github.com/ramdor/Thetis/blob/m ... 0Guide.pdf
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby OZ1CT-Ben » Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:06 pm

I try this Hostsample.exe and it show this:

driverCount = 2
Realtek ASIO
UMC ASIO Driver
Press any key to continue . . .

ASIO driver: [0] = Realtek ASIO
asioVersion: 2
driverVersion: 3
Name: [Realtek ASIO]
ErrorMessage: No ASIO Driver Error
ASIOGetChannels (inputs: 2, outputs: 2);
ASIOGetBufferSize (min: 1024, max: 1024, preferred: 1024, granularity: 0);
ASIOGetSampleRate (sampleRate: 0.000000);

ASIO driver: [1] = UMC ASIO Driver
asioVersion: 2
driverVersion: 1337
Name: [UMC ASIO Driver]
ErrorMessage: No ASIO Driver Error
ASIOGetChannels (inputs: 2, outputs: 2);
ASIOGetBufferSize (min: 8, max: 2048, preferred: 2048, granularity: -1);
ASIOGetSampleRate (sampleRate: 48000.000000);
ASIOOutputReady(); - Not supported
AsioCanReportOverload Not Supported
ASIOGetLatencies (input: 2120, output: 2424);
channel: 0 isInput: 1 isActive: 1 channelGroup: 0 type: 18 name: In 1
channel: 1 isInput: 1 isActive: 1 channelGroup: 0 type: 18 name: In 2
channel: 0 isInput: 0 isActive: 1 channelGroup: 0 type: 18 name: Out 1
channel: 1 isInput: 0 isActive: 1 channelGroup: 0 type: 18 name: Out 2

ASIO Driver started successfully.

Press any key to continue . . .
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby oe3ide » Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:14 pm

OZ1CT-Ben wrote:Trynig to get this cmASIO up and run on my PC.... but I dont se any "cmASIO sign" on my screen ???? if no sign then it is not working ????

I can only see the "TCP/IP Cat server" is running

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Please check also there are no blanks after "ASIOdrivername" and the value "UMC ASIO Driver" in the registry.
In case of a "wrong" key (ie with blanks after the string) you will not get any cmASIO icon in Thetis.
In case of a wrong ASIO driver name you should get a red cmASIO icon in Thetis.
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby DH1KLM » Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:16 pm

Have you already uninstalled and reinstalled the UMC drivers?

@Ernst, good hint about the blank entry
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby OZ1CT-Ben » Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:22 pm

1. I uninstall Realtec + UMC ASISO driver
2. start up Thetis...no ASIO driver
3. plug in the USB-cable to my Behringer UMC202hd
4. install latest driver for UMC202HD
5. made the regkey setup ( and there was no emty field)
6. reboot PC
7. run the Hostsample:

driverCount = 1
UMC ASIO Driver
Press any key to continue . . .

ASIO driver: [0] = UMC ASIO Driver
asioVersion: 2
driverVersion: 1337
Name: [UMC ASIO Driver]
ErrorMessage: No ASIO Driver Error
ASIOGetChannels (inputs: 2, outputs: 2);
ASIOGetBufferSize (min: 8, max: 2048, preferred: 2048, granularity: -1);
ASIOGetSampleRate (sampleRate: 48000.000000);
ASIOOutputReady(); - Not supported
AsioCanReportOverload Not Supported
ASIOGetLatencies (input: 2120, output: 2424);
channel: 0 isInput: 1 isActive: 1 channelGroup: 0 type: 18 name: In 1
channel: 1 isInput: 1 isActive: 1 channelGroup: 0 type: 18 name: In 2
channel: 0 isInput: 0 isActive: 1 channelGroup: 0 type: 18 name: Out 1
channel: 1 isInput: 0 isActive: 1 channelGroup: 0 type: 18 name: Out 2

ASIO Driver started successfully.

8. Turn on Thetis and see the "cmASIO" sign on the bar :-) so now it is up and running, and the ASIO driver is not in the Audio/VAC1 driver menue.

9. BUT BUT the sound is terribel..... there is som many "cracking" that i is not good.....
back when I use the ASIO in VAC I did 48000 /8 and it works a charme...but I think I have read somvhere that I need to run 48000 with 64kb buffer ???

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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby Trucker » Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:02 pm

cmASIO doesn't work through the VAC menu settings. If you have VAC1 checked, un-select it.
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby OZ1CT-Ben » Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:16 pm

I try now to use the ASIO driver in VAC and use the 48000 / 32 settings and also in the UMC control panel I select the same numbers.....but when Tetis start up it change the buffer to 2048 samples ???? why it do it I dont know

But the sound is mutch better....a real plesure to hear from the speaker...no "Craking"

so I know now how to setup this option...maybe this option wil be better in the next version of Thetis...I can just hope :-)


Tnx fer all help!

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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby oe3ide » Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:32 pm

so I know now how to setup this option...maybe this option wil be better in the next version of Thetis...I can just hope :-)



Try to add the following key to the registry: ASIOblocknum (DWORD 32bit) and assign a value of 5 or 6
(Using cmAsio with VM virtual asio I have to set it here to 9 in order to get a glitch-free audio)

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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby OZ1CT-Ben » Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:01 pm

NOW we are close to it run....PERFECT ;-)

I have now try 5,,,7,,,,9 but now up on 15 and there is no "Craking"
will try the numbers arrund and see what is best.

sounds is good....

Thanks for help....

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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby KC2QMA » Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:07 pm

I wonder if most of this setup will be made easier in the future with some dropdown menus similar to how you set up VAC?
Anyway it's just nice to see ASIO in Thetis!

Thank You Thetis Dev team!!
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby Chipp » Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:50 am

Can cmASIO be used over the internet using remote desktop software?

I have been trying to use TeamViewer and Anydesk to listen to my 7000MKII. I have been unsuccessful getting any audio via cmASIO.

Interface is UM202HD. The UMC control panel displays the correct sample rate, buffer size and ASIO as active.
UMC202HD is no longer displayed as an option under VAC
In Thetis a green cm symbol is displayed in the lower ribbon.

In sound volume mixer Thetis and TeamViewer have the output device designation "OUT 1-2 (BEHRINGER UMC 202HD 192K)"

I do have audio as soon as I select VAC1 which is set to use MME.
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby w-u-2-o » Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:29 pm

Chipp wrote:Can cmASIO be used over the internet using remote desktop software?
Not directly. You can pass it through Voicemeeter to one of your remote access app's.

If you have more questions about remote op's please post them in the remote op's part of the forum: viewforum.php?f=24
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby OZ1CT-Ben » Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:59 pm

I run my Anan remote via OpenVPN,

The Thetis software run on my home PC here at home and my Anan at the temote....and cmASIO is running fine, so maybe an idea to use VPN in sted of RDP

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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby K8EZB » Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:35 pm

A bit late to the party here. Just now setting up cmASIO in 2.10.3.6 dev per the published guidance. Using PreSonus 192 Mobile but Voicemeeter only for digital modes. So far, working as expected with no issues.

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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby GW0NTM » Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:07 am

Hi All

Does anyone know what input channels are being used by cmASIO? Is it mono from channel #1, or a mono combination of channels #1 and #2?

Thanks
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby w-u-2-o » Fri Jan 12, 2024 12:34 pm

GW0NTM wrote:Hi All

Does anyone know what input channels are being used by cmASIO? Is it mono from channel #1, or a mono combination of channels #1 and #2?

Thanks
Robin

Mono combination.
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby GW0NTM » Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:06 pm

w-u-2-o wrote:
GW0NTM wrote:Hi All

Does anyone know what input channels are being used by cmASIO? Is it mono from channel #1, or a mono combination of channels #1 and #2?

Thanks
Robin

Mono combination.


Thank you. That explains the strange effect I was getting by running my unprocessed mic audio on channel 1 and processed audio on channel 2. I will have to come up with a new approach for getting DAW processed audio in.

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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby StefanoAlvaro » Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:20 pm

I purchased a MOTU M2 card to test the cmASIO functionality, I created the text in regedit and everything worked fine straight away. Unfortunately I had to go back to the protocol1 firmware (I have a 7000 mk3 and the prot2 doesn't work well), the cm icon remains green but I can't hear anything anymore. I also tried resetting the db, and even reinstalling the motu and thetis drivers, but to no avail. Could it be that the cmASIO functionality only works with protocol2?
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby W4WMT » Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:43 pm

StefanoAlvaro wrote:Could it be that the cmASIO functionality only works with protocol2?

Hi OM,

Yes, that is correct, cmASIO is not supported by protocol_1.
I'll have to check why the icon is still green using protocol 1 (I thought we tested that).
As far as not being able to run protocol_2 on your MKIII, have you checked out all of Rick's N1GP firmware builds for that FPGA? He has quite a few, you might get lucky!

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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby K2MWC » Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:35 pm

I've been trying to get this cmASIO working without any success. I ran hostsample and It comes up with 3 Asio drivers

driverCount = 3
Voicemeeter AUX Virtual ASIO
Voicemeeter Insert Virtual ASIO
Voicemeeter Virtual ASIO

I've tried all 3 in the registry still no green cm at the bottom of Thetis, any suggestions ?

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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby Tony EI7BMB » Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:37 pm

Can you post a screenshot of your registry entry ?

K2MWC wrote:I've been trying to get this cmASIO working without any success. I ran hostsample and It comes up with 3 Asio drivers

driverCount = 3
Voicemeeter AUX Virtual ASIO
Voicemeeter Insert Virtual ASIO
Voicemeeter Virtual ASIO

I've tried all 3 in the registry still no green cm at the bottom of Thetis, any suggestions ?

Thanks
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby K2MWC » Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:53 pm

Tony EI7BMB wrote:Can you post a screenshot of your registry entry ?
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K2MWC wrote:I've been trying to get this cmASIO working without any success. I ran hostsample and It comes up with 3 Asio drivers

driverCount = 3
Voicemeeter AUX Virtual ASIO
Voicemeeter Insert Virtual ASIO
Voicemeeter Virtual ASIO

I've tried all 3 in the registry still no green cm at the bottom of Thetis, any suggestions ?

Thanks
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby Tony EI7BMB » Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:03 pm

Thanks , I have Voicemeeter Virtual ASIO set . Is voicemeeter set to INT32 LSB and 48000 ? Your sound output device should also be set to 64 /48 k .
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby K2MWC » Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:01 pm

Tony EI7BMB wrote:Thanks , I have Voicemeeter Virtual ASIO set . Is voicemeeter set to INT32 LSB and 48000 ? Your sound output device should also be set to 64 /48 k .


Yes it's set to INT32LSB 48000....i don't have any external sound devices other then external speakers that I use VAC1 to connect them.
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby Tony EI7BMB » Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:28 am

Does voicemeeter show Hardware Out as 48/64 ?
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby K2MWC » Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:35 pm

Tony EI7BMB wrote:Does voicemeeter show Hardware Out as 48/64 ?


48/1024 which is my Speaker , trying to find the setting to change 1024 to 64
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Re: cmASIO feature in Thetis

Postby w-u-2-o » Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:36 pm

Bryan: why can't cmASIO follow the buffer size set by the device driver?

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